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Can I see the repo?
Nostr.watch runs off nip-66 events.
Its just that they aren't published to many relays, only:
Relaypag.es
Relay.Nostr.watch
Monitorlizard.nostr1.com
There's also undocumented events that can be used for uptime, kind 1066
cc @npub1uac…99rx

2026-02-26 05:39:29 UTC

More outbox lessons learned for me, maybe useful for #devstr
As far as I know
1. Learned that no nostr app uses nip-66 to check if a relay is alive before firing off requests
2. According to my benchmarks, by implementing nip-66, the relay success rate increases from 30% -> ~~75-85%, meaning fewer connections are wasted on dead relays.
3. Nip-66 is therefore an efficiency improvement, and is not necessarily a coverage guarantee
4. I have not measured time to outbox results yet.
5. No nostr app spot checks what outbox relays return against an independent relay to detect gaps. Nip-66 liveness checks return relay health, but do not verify per-author delivery.
6. Deterministic algos like greedy set coverage cannot be set up with a learning mechanism
7. Stochastic algos like coracle’s are able to implement learning, and benefit significantly - coverage improves the more the app looks up a specific profile
8. The theoretical CS algo I mentioned before (MAB-UCB) algo is not practical
9. 20-44% of follows dont have a kind-10002, which hampers outbox.
From what I’ve seen so far the best starting point is coracle’s stochastic algo, with nip-66, and delivery scoring.
https://github.com/nostrability/outbox
cc @npub1uac…99rx @npub1jlr…ynqn @npub180c…h6w6 @npub1utx…50e8 @npub1acg…p35c @npub1ye5…knpr @npub1fgz…jeck @npub13v4…l3l8
#nevent1q…djtd

2026-02-26 02:02:41 UTC

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Youre at least the second person to report this
https://github.com/damus-io/notedeck/issues/1298#issuecomment-3963471151
cc @npub1fgz…jeck

2026-02-26 01:55:31 UTC

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Welcome heres your soy latte

2026-02-24 16:43:37 UTC

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glhf
😂

2026-02-24 16:35:46 UTC

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@npub1equ…hkj6 yes. We are not there yet, but we have been exploring this, and have a path to it.
@npub13v4…l3l8 is digging into it.
Ask me again next month ser.

2026-02-24 16:20:36 UTC

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Added https://github.com/nostrability/outbox/pull/13/changes/a448766ec62195a52235ff0e24c804bfe188dd6b

2026-02-24 16:03:00 UTC

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I made the report less academic, and more actionable.
Specific to your question on how to implement the cs algo - mab - see
https://github.com/nostrability/outbox/blob/main/IMPLEMENTATION-GUIDE.md#7-learn-from-what-actually-works
And
https://github.com/nostrability/outbox/blob/main/IMPLEMENTATION-GUIDE.md#improvement-opportunities
MAB complements nip-66 well - nip-66 checks liveness before asking relays, whereas MAB tracks relay health *after* asking the relay, and scores it.
Nosotros @npub1ces…t37c looks like has a “seen” table (event created at x seen on relay y), and it is not providing feedback to relay selection for future lookups.

2026-02-24 15:17:21 UTC

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Thanks for taking interest. I will add methodology overview to the readme. To your questions:
1. I extracted the algorithms from nostr outbox implementations to a typescript library.
2. In the TS library we have nostr algos from the real world (e.g. from amethyst, nostrudel, nostur etc)
3. In the TS library we also have the general CS algorithms not yet found in nostr apps
4. The computer science problem of “outbox” maps to “weighted set cover problem” AKA “maximum coverage problem”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_coverage_problem
5. The “winning” algo for long term event retrieval MAB is used in real world applications in online ads, a/b testing https://web.stanford.edu/class/cme241/lecture_slides/MultiArmedBandits.pdf
https://web.mit.edu/6.7950/www/lectures/L15-2022fa.pdf
6. I answer two questions to the above:
Given a npub (e.g. fiatjaf who has 400/whatever follows) run a ~~dozen or so algos
A) “assignment coverage” phase 1(academic/no network ) if every relay is online, and no events are deleted, how many of your follows are reached by this algo?
B) “event recall” phase 2 (real world like/pull events from relays) given realistic conditions of relays being down, events being pruned/deleted, relays gating event retrieval (via auth or otherwise) what are the numbers?
C) given phase 2 above, what happens if we triage relays first via nip-66 liveness monitor events, relays, services like nostr.watch by @npub1uac…99rx
7. I have not gone into a dozen apps to measure in app the outbox results. All of this is done in deno/typescript
8. The real world results are vastly different than the academic ones.
I’m measuring more details on nip-66 - the hypotheses are 1) improved coverage, and 2) drastically reduced number of calls to relays to find the info being sought

2026-02-24 03:41:28 UTC

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@npub1nmr…yha8 forgot to mention there are diminishing returns after 20 connections. I think your chrome testing was capped around 30?

2026-02-24 03:14:13 UTC

A few years ago I asked the devs to run the benchmark on how much better (if at all) outbox is over using large relays. No one took up this question, so I started running benchmarks.
A few learnings for me:
1. Outbox is proven better than using large relays
2. Three relays is the optimum for each npub
3. Three year old notes have an incredibly low survival rate, and are barely findable by the best outbox implementations (~~20%)
4. There are half a dozen algos not yet implemented by any nostr app to my knowledge that are superior to current algos for finding year old notes
5. No nostr app has implemented nip-66 relay liveness checks in outbox implementations to my knowledge
6. It could be measurement or methodology error - the relay/note indexer performs worse than outbox and large relays
7. There are poor performing outbox implementations
Cc @npub1nmr…yha8 @npub1fgz…jeck @npub180c…h6w6

2026-02-11 01:49:52 UTC

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👀
Agents.md is a step in this direction

2026-02-10 02:21:53 UTC

The origin of “gluten free”
#nevent1q…tl54

2026-02-09 18:49:16 UTC

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I had a family friend who did this approach and it did not help him.
This was before I knew about seed oils. I suspect it was the seed oils, and/or other chemical-industrial waste slop.

2026-02-09 03:56:23 UTC

🦉
#nevent1q…8c3f

2026-02-07 20:43:51 UTC

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🫠

2026-02-07 19:32:43 UTC

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😂

2026-02-07 18:51:51 UTC

😍
#nevent1q…p5kw

2026-02-07 18:42:29 UTC

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I blame @npub1k6t…dhk6

2026-02-07 18:42:08 UTC

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🤌🤌

2026-02-07 18:29:05 UTC

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Ez one click Family member onboarding.
No emails.
No “create account”.
“Just works”.

2026-02-07 18:22:09 UTC

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2026-02-07 02:21:48 UTC

🤌
#nevent1q…58g6

2026-02-06 19:06:07 UTC

🐑
#nevent1q…g0fk

2026-02-06 19:05:27 UTC

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Have you offered them sats to adde applesauce to their stack?

2026-02-06 19:04:51 UTC

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Sorry, accidental tag - there is yet another bug in the app I use

2026-02-06 19:00:15 UTC

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https://github.com/Hakkadaikon/libelay ?

2026-02-06 18:44:10 UTC

#devstr
#nevent1q…v4wy

2026-02-06 17:41:20 UTC

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gm
Free Canada

2026-02-06 16:46:21 UTC

😂
#nevent1q…j067

2026-02-06 15:31:23 UTC

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@npub1qe3…zefe

2026-02-06 15:00:45 UTC

gm
#nevent1q…frcq

2026-02-06 14:50:07 UTC

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4) nip-59, 5) nip-44, 6) https://github.com/nostrability/nostrability/issues/264

2026-02-06 14:49:19 UTC

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Look at 1) coracle implementation, 2) 0xchat implementation, 3) nip-17

2026-02-06 14:48:25 UTC

https://image.nostr.build/56f1cc798d8d98b5bd90019c462c06f1eb9b54b25ba46f9fc7559be9184a20ca.jpg

2026-02-06 10:58:42 UTC

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You’re right

2026-02-06 01:59:12 UTC

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpIbiFmY60

2026-02-06 01:52:15 UTC

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Not enough land cruisers were posted

2026-02-06 01:50:20 UTC

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You mean nip-17?

2026-02-06 01:47:19 UTC

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This is an accurate assessment.
Every time I review two nip-17 apps I find broken stuff.

2026-02-05 19:33:16 UTC

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😂

2026-02-05 17:57:20 UTC

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Wen nostr?

2026-02-05 15:57:39 UTC

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You dont want anything nsfw in your demo

2026-02-05 15:44:16 UTC

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You can put a bot in the workflow to verify “child safe” but you absolutely need a human to QA the bot’s selection

2026-02-05 15:39:23 UTC

👀
#nevent1q…4kz6

2026-02-05 15:34:19 UTC

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😂

2026-02-05 15:33:54 UTC

nostr
#nevent1q…vmqn

2026-02-05 15:16:46 UTC

https://image.nostr.build/297ee4e1177ab1847491a8b7518e909fd7a4cf39b4b86521be42f58182351340.jpg
#nevent1q…56zs

2026-02-05 13:28:53 UTC

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Grid scale is not the same as individual scale

2026-02-05 13:28:29 UTC

The beauty of nostr and vibe coding is that you can build with a focus on your customers - all one of them.
#nevent1q…azf8

2026-02-05 13:26:04 UTC

“We need more solar”
Is a Chinese and eco-scammer psy-op
gm
☀️

2026-02-05 13:15:23 UTC

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@npub1zl3…jajh was talking about this last month

2026-02-05 13:06:22 UTC

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😂

2026-02-05 02:23:55 UTC

https://image.nostr.build/7a52822444e0125e646406cac3b8b30fdf341b7223fbe65bcac0a423c08e9943.jpg
#nevent1q…zfrq

2026-02-05 02:09:04 UTC

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Npub.world

2026-02-05 01:51:07 UTC

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You missed it. @npub1l2v…ajft self promoted to management 😂
https://image.nostr.build/90e3f9ebd8b61beb7badb394a0e4bc437a8a8b4a7019769654aa385a35e5997b.jpg

2026-02-04 20:34:21 UTC

🛶
#nevent1q…w2ug

2026-02-04 18:26:58 UTC

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Here you go
https://github.com/damus-io/damus/pull/3590

2026-02-04 18:21:27 UTC

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I thought I was using agents a lot, and then I listened to pabloverse

2026-02-04 18:02:42 UTC

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Bizarre

2026-02-04 17:56:49 UTC

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👀

2026-02-04 03:23:06 UTC

😮‍💨
#nevent1q…rc4n

2026-02-04 02:49:49 UTC

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If you want a chance at one million miles then go diesel.
I dont know the details on those - ask your local truck mechanic

2026-02-04 02:35:57 UTC

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Hilux is tacoma in the US. Not difficult to source.

2026-02-04 02:32:12 UTC

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In addition to 2UZ-FE 4.7L V8, check pre gulag tech models with
4.0L V6 1GR-FE.
Find your local independent toyota mechanic and ask them on their experience with reliability. If you like them they can help you source.
#🇯🇵

2026-02-04 02:27:46 UTC

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Approved ✅

2026-02-04 02:19:20 UTC

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In the US Pre-2014 with minimal gulag tech (remote start, satellite, telemetry).
On engine, my mechanic swears by 2006 +/- one generation land cruiser engines as being hard af, reaching 400k-500k miles with ease.

2026-02-04 02:15:07 UTC

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I fixed nospeak interoperability with 0xchat and other nip-17 apps today:
https://github.com/nostrability/nostrability/issues/169#issuecomment-3843104553
Submitted an interop improvement for 0xchat as well.
Let me know which nip-17/nip-whatever DM app combos huge you trouble, and I will fix it.

2026-02-04 01:50:53 UTC

@npub176p…vgup can you cook up some moltbot count sauce on nostr and bot badges to npub world
🤌🤌

2026-02-04 01:47:51 UTC

It do be true
#nevent1q…yatn

2026-02-03 22:58:39 UTC

I now send pls fix bug reports to sleepy.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
#nevent1q…385z

2026-02-03 22:47:14 UTC

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LNVPS.net
https://image.nostr.build/7dcb509cdb8b1ebf286124fd32ff7c47217616c56e3b55d9d942839a21e1a879.jpg

2026-02-03 22:44:15 UTC

Meet in meat
#nevent1q…54cg

2026-02-03 22:43:24 UTC

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@npub1v0l…qj49 has a VPS - forgot the name

2026-02-03 22:41:07 UTC

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This is nostr’s most difficult problem
🤠

2026-02-03 22:32:00 UTC

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1. If I want a column to see notes from e.g. Jeff Booth, I want to search for “Jeff” and for the app to suggest to me npubs whose profile names start with /include Jeff, so that I dont have to manually find, copy, paste npub.
2. I added git issues column kind:1621, but non kind-1621 issues are showing up in this column
3. After I add a column, how do I edit it ?
https://image.nostr.build/7d43ff463d3a4411ffe7c4e27ea0fefd1ed5cfb7016dc72c2b7eeb5c8343c137.jpg
https://image.nostr.build/38297dea70f761920f3d6216647a5811e256f7f2ab6bddb306c41a88672e2931.jpg

2026-02-03 22:13:40 UTC

MapleClaw
🍯🦞
#nevent1q…8ysj

2026-02-03 22:13:12 UTC

Testing SleepyColumns on desktop
https://image.nostr.build/2b8741198d9699e3a01512bf918454c7bdb00ebc6f33e11f244c31ea279e913e.jpg
#nevent1q…kdgy

2026-02-03 20:44:57 UTC

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Notedeck, damus android is about to be released soon by @npub1fgz…jeck
I gave nip-17 pr to iOS damus a go a few months back, before nostrdb was ready https://github.com/damus-io/damus/pull/3263
Will have another go

2026-02-03 19:05:58 UTC

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What drew fosdem dev interest to nostr?

2026-02-03 16:44:13 UTC

I’m not a trader - sharing for the linechart horoscope bros.
🌽 Top-up AI trading sats product by @npub1mnw…eujc
lucy.guru
https://image.nostr.build/df624e81604638691f0be369431b4ee70293051ae7203940841f350ad01c2a9f.jpg
https://image.nostr.build/21d34799592683f1b52720c3538e3a1c28d3acc0dabcb7f5364840b9a7211013.jpg
https://image.nostr.build/aa635dbb3ce7035f856d86a669625365c79c11d4cae8b547932034c8b13806ee.jpg
https://image.nostr.build/e2754600de3edef35a782929dbfcd93781bb7ffdcc19b65bff53e2e6c7726eb8.jpg

2026-02-03 16:35:34 UTC

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My people

2026-02-03 16:29:22 UTC

Nostr direct messaging apps:
https://github.com/nostrability/nostrability/issues/169
#nevent1q…ract

2026-02-03 15:26:49 UTC

🦅
#nevent1q…cups

2026-02-03 15:22:22 UTC

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@npub1klr…7gxc when I load nostube on mobile safari ios 26 lockdown, nothing loads
https://image.nostr.build/de127838e9e9a7de6ddf6bb94c260453a24c0784366ebfc89ae9440a6bf83eea.jpg

2026-02-03 15:21:08 UTC

https://image.nostr.build/ddfa8f641c770b7ec4ea9d5b45fbddab2176bb49da64f9cf0d1a97dc69ba03b8.jpg

2026-02-03 15:17:46 UTC

☀️
#nevent1q…8psz

2026-02-03 15:17:05 UTC

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Any nostr sessions?

2026-02-03 05:54:50 UTC

🇵🇦
#nevent1q…vm6d

2026-02-03 02:41:47 UTC

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They are on the VC injection, so growing fast and bleeding money.
Will be interesting to see if they turn a profit.

2026-02-02 23:48:16 UTC

👀
#nevent1q…g632

2026-02-02 23:26:58 UTC

👀
#nevent1q…ktu5

2026-02-02 20:46:18 UTC

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🫂

2026-02-02 20:44:33 UTC

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Found a fix 🙏
Your reported notes with many invoices helped, thanks Farmer Wedge

2026-02-01 16:37:16 UTC

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Taking another look ser

2026-02-01 03:50:11 UTC

👀
#nevent1q…k6d5

2026-02-01 03:47:57 UTC

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👀

2026-02-01 03:46:19 UTC

Calacanis offered intro of core devs gavin and taaki to epstein according to this release
https://image.nostr.build/1c2293fc9a6c417bb89a270e1493619883cdff9a8cde53a895f4c71fda2549c2.jpg
#nevent1q…7y0m

2026-01-31 19:07:50 UTC

😂
#nevent1q…rykp